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How often do you give critiques on average (and discuss why)? 

62%
8 deviants said <5 (give reason)
23%
3 deviants said 5 - 10 weekly because I have free time to give some critiques
8%
1 deviant said 5 - 10 weekly because I want to satisfy my friends/watchers
8%
1 deviant said >20 (give reason)
0%
No deviants said 10 - 20 weekly because I prefer giving feedback
0%
No deviants said 10 - 20 weekly because I think critiquing others works improves your own capabilities

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FaeryInAJar Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Writer
I'll be completely honest and tell you this: cee69 invited to this group when she first made it because she was a fan of my stories, and we both expressed wishes to have feedback on our work. I don't post in this group much because I'm well aware that my brand of literature caters to a specific type of reader, which aren't really the kind that participate in this group.

And in the spirit of being honest, I don't read many of pieces that crop in my messages from this group because it's not the type of literature I joined deviantart to read.

That does not mean I don't appreciate the hard work and creativity that goes into each piece, because I do. I know what it's like to languish over each word and plot device. I do believe everyone deserves an honest critique of their work. I believe whole-heartedly in what this group is doing. I just don't know if I can meet its expectations.
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Thank you for your honesty :) I appreciate it and also that you gave your opinion over this. What exactly do you write? And I am planning to make a system where works are not only accepted here, they are GUARENTEED critiques. On prose, poetry, and story chapters. I will make a system for it. Of course the critiques given will not be professional but rather than wondring if adding work to a group will get someone critiques or not, I want to ensure them. But... the members will also be asked something in return :nod: I hope you get to read the rules in the group and see if your work fits here :)
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FaeryInAJar Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013   Writer
My apologies for the late response.

As for what I write: I generally classify it as GiD themed (Gentlemen in Distress) with a little BDSM thrown in. Like I said, it caters to a very specific audience. And I have a strong suspicion that most of the people in this group don't have that particular taste.
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
No worries :aww:

Well to be honest, there are many works that I read that might be totally against my taste but I read them an critique them, only mentioning my personal taste but then considering the piece from a neutral perspective. So... if you want critiques, you CAN add the work to this group :nod: But then again it is your choice :) I do agree that this is a... rare delicacy if I may say :D
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FaeryInAJar Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013   Writer
I think I'm a little wary of recieving more "flames" than critiques, but I will consider it. :)
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
aww that is sad :( why do you recieve these so called "fames"? There has to be a reason right?
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FaeryInAJar Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013   Writer
"Flames" are just comments made by people ranting about how much they hate what you're writing about and how inappropriate they think it is. I've never recieved any myself, but I've seen it happen to others. Which is why many writers who touch on the same subject as me start every piece with a warning to any and all haters to just not read it.
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ah I knew what flames were :aww: I was wondering if you ever recieved them. Well yes, people are stupid enough to comment on topics they don't like at all but a warning is a better option :nod:
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jackgunski Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
I'm more likely to critique if somebody approaches me with something. It's not laziness, ok, it's part laziness, but when somebody tells me to critique something in this MASSIVE gallery, I'm more likely to avoid choosing anything at all. It's like if it were raining outside and somebody told me to pick a raindrop. Know what I mean?
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ah that is quite correct :nod: I understand how you feel. But just out of curiosity, if I were to compare the situation with that of rain when someone asks you to pick a tea spoon out of a bucket that is placed in the rain, would you still feel that way? Meaning, that if not perhaps a specific work, if someone gives you 20 works and asks you to critique any 2 or 3 of them, would that be fine?
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jackgunski Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
Your analogy is confusing, but it might work. I'd give it a try.
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Eh I did realize that quantitizing spoonfuls is not the best option ^^; but glad to see you would try :nod:
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ActsofArt Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm not really sure how to answer this because it really varies. Lately I've had more time(and I got my own laptop!yay!) and I've been more active but overall I usually have less time/get caught up in other things and I am on less often so I don't give as many critique's.
I do try whenever I have the time. But you know...
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ah I see :nod: oh just to confirm, by critiques I mean constructive comments and critiques both. And yea, it is sort of hard to give critiques I think ^^;
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BunnyFroofroo Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I'd love to be able to critique more, but I'm just too damn busy. If I were still in HS I'm sure I could get around to it, but alas I am not. There are also times when I'm not 100% sure what to say and I can put 10 min into a critique when I should be doing homework, so I'm almost taught my self just not to look at pieces ):
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Aww :( that is sad. I understand that at times one doesn't have time and at other times, looking at works rarely mean that one will critique them. I mean there is no obligation to comment :hmm: Thank you for sharing your perspective! I was wondering if you can comment perhaps twice a week or so? That shouldn't be hard right?
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Cranberry413 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I'm not actually going to answer the poll because I'm not entirely sure how many critiques I do. I don't generally critique people that I'm not watching because so many of the people I'm watching are literature posters and I only have so much time. However, I always do my best to give my general opinion as well as point out things that could be changed for the better.

I think I actually critique more when I'm in school because I'm such a terrible procrastinator. 5-10 a week seems like such a small number to me, but at the same time I don't think I do more than that..

Anyway, I do it because I have free time and because I like to help out the people I'm watching, but also because I've discovered that critiquing other people's work has helped me in editing my own work as well as improve my comprehension of things (like poetry! I've been critiquing one of my watcher's poems for quite some time now and I'm finally starting to appreciate poetry a lot more ^^;)

I think I covered what I wanted to say... :blushes:
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well in a roundabout way you did answer the poll ^^;

By critiques I meant proper rated critiques as well as non rated ones. Like constructive comments :nod: 5-10 times makes on average 1 critique per day. That is not a small number to be honest :nod:

Free time... watching... helping you... it seems like you manage to do things in quite a balanced way! For me, the concept of meter has improved a lot with critiquing others works. Perhaps expressions might also start improving :XD: but to be honest... at times it is hard to choose between writing my own works or critiquing :(

Thank you for your opinion :D you managed to sum it quite well!
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Cranberry413 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013
I realized that after I posted the comment ^^; Although what I meant was I wouldn't select one of the poll answers given.

I assumed that :) Since I tend to critique/comment on pieces from the people I'm watching, I think it's more of a matter of how much they post and how often they post. That's probably why it's hard to estimate how often I actually leave helpful constructive comments.

I definitely know what you mean- I have the same problem sometimes! I'm in the middle of writing a novel (that actually has a few people keeping up with it and waiting for new uploads) so I want to keep going with that and be that much closer to finishing, but I also want to catch up on all my devwatch messages and make the number go down a little. :P

Not a problem! I'm glad I actually got my point across. :XD:
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well that is a good practice :nod: to comment/critique on people you are watching :) That actually helps keep the numbers intact for critiques. I do it on... well works i see in groups and of watchers and of people who watch me ^^; it kinda is hard to keep up with them all!

Well I have a work ongoing for a month :hmm: it is mainly a short story with both prose and poetry. I haven't even completed one portion yet :( The numbers that I have to critique are about 400+ :tears:
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Cranberry413 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
I sometimes do that. I tried doing that for a while here for theCritiqueables when I first joined, but then I fell behind with basically everything in my life so I had to cut the things that weren't "top priority". And besides, I'm actually watching a few members from the group anyway so that's kind of a compromise. ^^;

400+ is a HUGE number! I'd never be able to keep up with that... :no: Your story sounds neat, good luck with it! I'm sure it'll work out for you- it just takes time and a lot of patience. Or patience and a lot of time... :nod:
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well I hope my work goes well as well :) it has quite... well... it has its roots in too many places. Its going well has a huge impact (for me) and so I might complete it in a few more months. I wonder if I will post it on dA or not :D

Thanks for the support!
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Cranberry413 Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013
You should post it :aww:

And you're more than welcome! :D
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shehrozeameen Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I critique 5-7 works daily... Sometimes its one sentence, other times its a long exposition.

Overall, I give it on the basis of the theme, the presentation, and the vision. And I give it as soon as I've read it.
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Well that is good practice. 5 - 7 DAILY is a lot! I am surprised you manage these many. I see... so in a way you cover the technique of a rated citique?
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shehrozeameen Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:iconsmartyplz: I go in there with a purpose; :iconschoolplz: I take the task of critique seriously and ponder over the matter; :icongreatjobplz: I give them a rating for their effort.
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Ah :D so you apprecite their effort! Good for you :D
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shehrozeameen Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:)

are you intentionally making those mistakes... that's another one I've noticed...
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I was never really good at spellings and while I am not pathetic, not having a spell checker at the moment has its problems :hmm:
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shehrozeameen Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
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cee69 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Writer
RL just gets in the way. I don't see a point in giving feedback if it's rushed. I can't stand one sentence comments myself.

~cee
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
True. Rushed feedback... that is not feedback. Just looking at a work and giving one word feedback and all doesn't help. I rarely give a liner comment unless the work does not require more (a friends deviation or a general picture/art)
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cee69 Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Student Writer
Yeah but I've hardly ever encountered a work that required only that much.
Still, even IF it's fabulous, I still like to explain WHY I think it is. Off course I like reading "Oh, how wonderful" or "This is just so great" but I'm more interested in the WHY. What did I do right? What did I do wrong?
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
True... I prefer WHY as well. I give critiques on the "why" and prefer them as well. I give short comments at times if I feel the deviant is not really interestd (or doesn't want) any critique but is a good friend so I like to omment :nod:
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NotenSMSK Featured By Owner Jan 6, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I personally critique 20< works and that is because I want to keep my friends/watchers happy and I think it gives off more exposure. Perhaps it might not seem obvious but when you start considering others works technically, same happens with your works. That is what happened with me.

Also, when I (not only in this group) am asking people to give feedback, I have to initiate it. It has some bad encounters for me but it also helped me make friends and get to know many people. Woul love to know about you!
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